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    Posted 1 month ago

    Truthisana…
    (153 items)

    Google Lens directed me towards the title here. It has a wonderful feel and look to this. Qing Dynasty (1644-1911) is also with this searched item.. Again any help here is appreciated

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    1. Newfld Newfld, 1 month ago
      Fabulous dog John, what an amazing score! Good luck finding out more about him
      - Jenni
    2. Truthisanarrow08 Truthisanarrow08, 1 month ago
      Thank you Jenni I joined a Chinese Group on Facebook but they are taking a while to review the post. Usually I think these would come in pairs, as this is how I see them on line. I have to go back tomorrow to see if another one finds it way to the shelf......crazy
    3. apostata apostata, 1 month ago
      well this could even be made yesterday, they used a stamped mark, the shaping ( fabrication ) of the mark is not well , and even the way of pressing of the mark is not well

      when numbers appears or stamping appears ( with uneven pressure) or foodregulations , or english tekst ( or perfect congruency like pending jewel design or decapitated ruyi head design ) YOU ARE ALWAYS OUT EVEN IF YOU GET IT FOR FREE
    4. apostata apostata, 1 month ago
      my excuses did,not mean bad , don,t want to be a wise but try to learn to discern different kind of quality , excuses
    5. Truthisanarrow08 Truthisanarrow08, 30 days ago
      Thank you for that. Another forum discussed this as well. I do agree to its base crudeness. The actual dog is fairly nice with no issues really. As far as the mark, it was stated to be made in the mid 1800's, and then possibly marked to be exported in the early 1900's when this mark was prevalent amongst imports.

      All I know is what I can see and feel at this point. It has the qualities of something very old...Thank you for your input. I do respect it and value it.....
    6. Truthisanarrow08 Truthisanarrow08, 29 days ago
      https://jorgewelsh.com/pdf/biscuit.pdf

      A very interesting read here. There is one aspect where it says the base of a lion was added later in Europe. I have added the pic above
    7. Truthisanarrow08 Truthisanarrow08, 28 days ago
      From Facebook group
      I think there is a chance it is Kangxi 18th c., rather than what turns out usually to be Kangxi revival of the late 19th c. The coloration, called Sancai (three colors), is common on these type of figures. The design is not common, and the face is clearly hand made rather than a cast...as is most often the case for the revival figures. The solid bottom, as opposed to having a vent hole or open bottom, also suggest older than 19thc.
    8. apostata apostata, 28 days ago
      insert- zuozhe de gou -gouvenor duff ears -?? mohui-K?ngx? xià ch?-K?ngx? yòu hòu

    9. apostata apostata, 28 days ago
      wtf the foto is a strange a strange amalgamation a soort of later Tang horse application with a type of 19 centery box ( pedestal), so we are in some kind of hybride here

      You can,t commpare this at al , because here we are n in zuozhe de gou ( = lie down dog, so they must some inspiration for that type of dog, IMO it can,t be the dog of the Tang period sancai , they are different but i can,t get sufficient samplinng , but Tang glaszing -+ is more what the call splash en dash and more egg and spinace

      I wonder if they borrowed a so called gouvenor DUFF dog ( drooping ears in the ) in the latency period shortly after Yongzheng

      IMO V- Shaping relief box ( pedestal is overrated but who am i ) the problem is the spread is even to mid 20 century, and people stated it could be quite frequent mid ninteeth century , Really during during the Xianfeng turnmoil period ?

      mij concern is whij is,not the glaze corroded
      and why are we missing every mineral staining at the bottom


    10. apostata apostata, 28 days ago
      in the original deleted photo there was a diagonal strip from bottom left to top right, what is that a mold application, I don't know, and some kind of replastering, what the hell replastering in kangxi, highly unlikely IMO, and no mineral stains, weird

      how about the mark , well the mark has,not got the meaning of clearing , which actually is used seldem on biscuit ware and is because guangdings is probably from 1949 on something like that i believe,

      but we are still in mayor trouble because the stamping is not of very early 20 century ( uneven prsssure of the mark) and we are likeli commited to the follow up of the tariff act so according the ferocious doctrinist later than 1919

      IMO it looks s like a type of the so called double fu - shou - the box also which is late guangxu

      the other question is is SU SAncai , ( new sancai - a type of trick), it all probably has some merits for the collector, but the application of the mark (made in) china is devastating for a seller, even when it is right or wrong
    11. apostata apostata, 28 days ago
      double fu- shou shaping and the type of border in the box and the relief V shaping
    12. apostata apostata, 28 days ago
      well that,s your best scenario , i don,t trust the mark at all
    13. Truthisanarrow08 Truthisanarrow08, 28 days ago
      Thank you apostata for all of your extensive legwork. I am taking this eventually to an appraiser and will share anything I may find out.....Thx again

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