Posted 6 years ago
CoffeeCupK…
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According to the serial number, (138910), and Singer, this Treadle sewing machine was made in Glasgow, Scotland on October 14, 1865, and is one of the first 700 ever produced. The sewing machine itself is original and untouched, and yes, it does still work. The wood of the base and cover box have been refinished professionally by hand from a Custom Woodshop, (The Keltic Woodshop), of Kansas City, Missouri in 2004. Everything else is original and untouched and works perfectly.
I have been unable to obtain it's worth after many many attempts to do so. Any legitimate ideas would be greatly appreciated.
UPDATE: After much searching and research I have found that the wood of the table top, cover box, and the single drawer I failed to mention before, are indeed original, but as previously stated, have been refinished. This information has been verified by a second party as being truthful and accurate. The model number is 134910. Being able to verify this information was extremely difficult, to say the least, as Singer has no records of Serial or Model Numbers before 1870 and no longer speculates on the age of a machine before this date as to when it was produced.
Thanks to those who have tried to help. The information was much appreciated.
Bet they could really pumped out the kilts back then ... smiling looks in great shape..
might look here...
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=1865+Singer+Treadle+Sewing+Machine&_sacat=0
or here..
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/sewing/overview/stories
I have the same one. And haven't been able to find any information about except what you posted and what some else has a picture of. Did you ever find the worth?
Just working my way through old CW S&T posts that have Singer no-prefix serial numbers, because the ISMACS team has been working on a project to flesh out the information on them.
With regard to this one, the ISMACS team said:
"The New Family/12-Class machine is really a mystery on two counts. It would have been helpful to have both of the numbers that are stamped on the SerNo cartouche. I would really like to know where the informant got the information that this machine was made in Glasgow, Scotland on October 14, 1865. The Love Loan factory at Glasgow opened in 1866, and the first correspondence from Singer HQ New York to Singer UK regarding production there is dated December 1867. That correspondence allotted Registry Numbers ["Serial Numbers"] 209301 through 209400, with Factory Numbers ["second numbers"] 0 [sic] through 100 [i.e., probably 1 through 100], for production of 100 New Family/[12K] machines. Those machines would have been "the first 100 machines made [i.e., not "assembled"] in Glasgow." Additionally, the so-called "birthdates" refer to the date of the correspondence/order assigning the production batch to a factory, not the date an individual machine was "made."
Serial Number 138910 would have been part of a run of NF produced at Singer's Mott Street Factory complex in New York City, in 1865, in sequence following the final production batch of Transverse Letter-A machines assigned in early 1865."
"The NF has been altered in my opinion. There are no tops like that before or after the time period in question. I have never seen a top like this ever, the build is not like any others.The plain cabinet of 1866 shows similar, but only black walnut. The one in question looks like the later plywood post 1878. The edging is suggestive of that plus the color of a re-finished black walnut would be darker than show in the collector's weekly pictures. No serial in the article as proof of date. There are missing parts of the bobbin winder and belt guard. The author seems to be telling us what they think more than asking for input, giving no sources for their opinions or serial and pictures of the underneath showing numbers etc... as they did on models back then. Really not enough to go on with the "1865" machine if it is."
So this one remains a mystery. :-(