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Posted 4 years ago
Golgatha
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This Chinese porcelain plate with scalloped edge is a thrift store find. Hight 3.5 cm, diam. 24.5 cm. I got it for the equivalent of USD 5. According to experts is it late Guangxu (1874-1908), early 20th century. If you can date it more precisely, then tell me.
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probably they defined this is xangxi revival scalloped late 19 century, see the chalkrock trough the house, could be possible my eyes are too bad, inconclusive
Thanks for the comment. I'l have it in mind !
could this be igezara , i don,t know bad eyes and no skill
Could be, apostata. Thanks again.
this sucks big time , because i don,t know, a rotten straw sedimentation on the bottom , with a sort of japanese double outer circle on the bottom , f,,, i can,t stand losing , one day i find out
Japanese Underglaze BLUE IMARI Porcelain PLATE Brown Scallop Edge Signed piccklick, but thats a piecrust , and that,s later , so now we have to search for a real Genroke without izegara
LOT 839161 catawiki Large Igezara Plate - Japan - Ca. 1900, but thats a piecrust, so this got nothing to do with chinese guangxu
wrong blue for genroke i am out of options , i like this , this a probably an 19 century good japanese print without being a piecrust
best regards waki, end of story
Thanks again apostata. Let me know when you have the definitive solution.
i got no definite solution , i narrowed it down , i think it is quite well educated guess , bad news no guangxu, good news = very well print , end of story
best regards waki
xxx entry marking ( homework )
dating is right the only discussion is transfer ware versus the imban- de- technik which is STENCIL technik, does, not matter much is splitting ants, slighty preference for transfer were, cant see well enough
addendum white panels Sh?chikubai = THREE FRIENDS OF WINTER
The Three Friends of Winter is an art motif that comprises the pine, bamboo, and plum.[1] The Chinese celebrated the pine, bamboo and plum together, as they observed that these plants do not wither as the cold days deepen into the winter season unlike many other plants.[2] Known by the Chinese as the Three Friends of Winter, they later entered the conventions of East Asian culture.[3][4] Together they symbolize steadfastness, perseverance, and resilience.[5] They are highly regarded in Confucianism and as such represent the scholar-gentleman's ideal.[1][6]
The Three Friends of Winter as Sho Chiku Bai in Japanese (literally "pine, bamboo, plum")[9] or Song Jug Mae (???) in Korean.
In Japan, they are particularly associated with the start of the New Year, appearing on greeting cards and as a design stamped into seasonal sweets.[10] Sh?chikubai (???) is sometimes also used as a three-tier ranking system. In this context, the pine (matsu, ?) usually is the highest rank, followed by bamboo (take, ?) as the middle rank, and plum (ume, ?) as the lowest.[11]
In a Korean poem by Kim Yuki (1580–1658), the three friends are brought together in order to underline the paradoxical contrast:
Peach and plum of springtime, don't flaunt your pretty blossoms;
Consider rather the old pine and green bamboo at year's end.
What can change these noble stems and their flourishing evergreen?[12]
must be meticulous enough
greetings waki
Thanks again for your analysis. So we're in Japan late 19th century. Everything of interest in my collection has an index card with all information I've been able to put together. These index cards are under constant revision. That's why I hope my posts on CW lead to more information.
The decoration is typical Igezara, but the thorned rim is here replaced by a scalloped rim. Can it still be called Igezara ? You tell me ?
the consequence of the scalloped rim is stretchingthe time spread window lets say early mid mejji - till taisho 1
while the piecrusts got a shorter time window something like 1885-1915
its technic before shape , so it is still igezara , the taisho 2 periode in the Fukagawa chargers is even called igezara
till taisho 1 must be end taisho
Thanks again. The confusion comes from Igezara meaning 'thornplate' in Saga prefecture dialect. Although here no 'thorns' but scallop rim.