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    Posted 3 years ago

    WBTN
    (4 items)

    Can anyone help me on what these are? Could anyone assist with translating?
    Found on Thursday Island, Australia

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    1. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      i am out

      left is a shou symbol

      right is guangxu yaunbao mark +Manchu language inner circle
      haven,t done research talking out of memory

      maybe very much later i do look it at but not likely
    2. dav2no1 dav2no1, 3 years ago
      Chinese coin, BUT there's a high probability that it's fake. A quick search shows almost all are counterfeits..
    3. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      weigh the coin , and i mean meticulously !!!! ,i need someone to super magnify the Manchu

      this must be a no brainer , but i can,t hardly see, very maybe very much later but not likely
    4. dav2no1 dav2no1, 3 years ago
      Here's a comparison..

      https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins.pl?large=19524
    5. keramikos, 3 years ago
      dav2no1, I think you nailed it. :-)
    6. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      no he did,not nailed it unfortunately , it is more complicated , the uncirculated fantasy pieces could be value

      1 Tael - Guangxu Fantasy
      1 Tael - Guangxu (Fantasy) - obverse1 Tael - Guangxu (Fantasy) - reverse
      © Stephen Album Rare Coins

      Features
      Location Kwangtung Province
      Type Fantasy items › Fantasy currency
      Year 1904
      Value 1 Tael (1)
      Currency Fantasy issues - China
      Composition Silver
      Size 41 mm
      Shape Round
      Technique Milled
      Orientation Medal alignment ??
      Demonetized Yes
      Number N#?274948
      References KM#?Pn3 (China), Kann#?932, KM#?Pn17 (Kwangtung)
      Obverse
      Four Chinese ideograms read top to bottom, right left with Manchu characters in the centre, all with one bat on either side and surrounded by more Chinese ideograms.

      Lettering:
      ????
      ?
      ?????????
      ? ????? ??? ?
      ????
      ?
      ?????

      Translation:
      Made in Kwangtung Province
      Guangxu (Emperor) / Yuanbao (Original currency)
      Guangxu (Emperor) / Yuanbao (Original currency)
      Worth 1 Liang (Tael)

      Reverse
      One stylized Chinese ideogram with one dragon on either side and a flaming pearl above.

      Lettering: ?

      Translation:
      Shou (for Changshou)
      Longevity

      Edge
      Reeded.

      Comments
      Very few genuine examples are known, with the vast majority being fantasies or counterfeits.

      1/2 Tael denominations are also known.

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      Date VG F VF XF AU UNC
      ND (1904)

      Numista Rarity index: 70

      so what we got here we got an fv classification ( IMO) which is comparivtialy low

      combined with an rarity index among peers of the collectors population

      so at best the value is very low




    7. keramikos, 3 years ago
      apostata, Eh, you win some, you lose some.
    8. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      we get there , as an team effort , believe me it is all about logic thinking , it is all about narrowing down this got nothing to do skill,

      i have to be out ( medical problems)

      greetings Waki

    9. dav2no1 dav2no1, 3 years ago
      Waki - Hope you're feeling better soon. If you look at the link I provided, it does show that some of the coins have value. How accurate the prices are, is arguable..
    10. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Yes, take care of yourself, apostata.
    11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Regards from me too, WAKI. The pic on the right is upside down by the way, WBTN !!!!
    12. WBTN, 3 years ago
      Thanks all for information and comments - much appreciated

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