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    Posted 2 years ago

    lil1steve
    (25 items)

    I have these two metal ID Tags, one has a date of 1919, Each request to reurn to owner, I have no idea what they were used for, hoping someone has seen this type of items

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    1. dav2no1 dav2no1, 2 years ago
      These are called key registry tags or insurance key tags..
    2. dav2no1 dav2no1, 2 years ago
      Try searching "antique insurance key tags"
    3. lil1steve lil1steve, 2 years ago
      dav2no1,
      Thank you for your kind response to my question, that solves that mystery.
    4. dav2no1 dav2no1, 2 years ago
      These are British version but the explanation is the same..

      https://deabath.com/product/vintage-british-insurance-key-tag/
    5. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
      Disagree— the top one is definitely a pet dog tag. The dog face on it clearly identifies its use.

      Suspect the bottom has the same use, but lack of a dog certainly could indicate other uses.

      Insurance key tags usually have a company name and policy/ owner number.

      scott

    6. keramikos, 2 years ago
      Intriguing.

      I decided to use Google Lens to see what might crop up.

      I found a lot of very similar ones (elliptical metal tag with the waved lines of text), but no exact match.

      Here's one at CW S&T (no dog image):

      Here's one at CW S&T:

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/198888-mystery-dog-tag--civil-war

      FYI, that incomplete museum link seems to be for this outfit (I didn't see any of those tags there):

      https://mottsmilitarymuseuminc.com/

      Some others have similar ones and think that they have a military origin:

      https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/257462-spanish-american-war-era-dog-tag/

      https://www.etsy.com/listing/1268145271/vintage-usmc-key-fob-mbns-usmc-marine

      I decided to look into the history of military 'dog tags,' because my impression was that the nickname was something military members came up with as a joke along the lines of "G.I.":

      https://www.history.com/news/why-are-american-soldiers-called-gis

      Apparently, the story about the dog tags nickname being a soldier joke is only one theory. The other is that newspaper magnate Willam Randolph Hearst coined the term:

      https://www.defense.gov/News/Inside-DOD/Blog/article/2340760/dog-tag-history-how-the-tradition-nickname-started/

      I didn't find any solid evidence that these elliptical tags were ever used as miliary ID tags, certainly not official ones.

      Here is the most similar one I could find (an elliptical tag with waved text and dog image):

      https://mitchelfield.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/7/4/117438628/fbs-l1600_orig.jpg

      https://mitchelfield.weebly.com/artifacts-relics-and-memoribilia.html

      So, my sense of it (which could be wrong) is that these were general, multi-purpose address tags, mostly likely used as key fobs.
    7. lil1steve lil1steve, 2 years ago
      Hello, I believe I found that these are key fobs for the named person for the international order of odd fellows or independent order of odd fellows
    8. AnythingObscure AnythingObscure, 2 years ago
      I have a few of these that were definitely car keyring tags, bearing the name of a car dealer and a code number with 'if found, drop into any mailbox', which if received back by the dealership could be reunited with their owner by files they kept. I believe insurance companies also issued such tags.

      These do not appear to be that however, for the lack of an obvious motor car logo -- it has been fun to hear the ideas of others which are probably more correct for yours, all of which I could agree with, and I hope somebody does come up with a true solution! Thanks for a FUN showing!!
    9. keramikos, 2 years ago
      lil1steve, When I add Odd Fellows to my search criteria, I do find some of those elliptal fobs.

      Here's one that had never been engraved with a name and address (new old stock), but clearly has Odd Fellows imagery on it:

      https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1920-ioof-id-tag-key-fob-o-order-odd-63430967

      Here's another that's been engraved with an address, and also stamped on the back with the Odd Felllows emblem and a date, Unfortunately, the area on the front where there is an image of some kind is worn:

      https://www.etsy.com/listing/637406921/antique-ioof-registry-tag-odd-fellows

      I agree with AnythingObscure that these elliptical tags could have been used for a variety of purposes.

      Somewhere out there is probably a vintage catalog that has blanks for sale with a variety of imagery (fraternal orders, dogs, flags, etc.) on them.
    10. dav2no1 dav2no1, 2 years ago
      When I was a kid, there's a local fair..now Western Washington Fairgrounds. There was a machine that you put money in. And you could engrave whatever message you wanted. In that case it was a coin. But when I first saw these, it's what I was thinking. As Kera stated, it's more likely that you ordered these from a catalog.
    11. keramikos, 2 years ago
      dav2no1, I remember those penny-mangling souvenir machines. };-) I think I saw an active one as recently as the 1990s/2000s.

      Yes, in case I wasn't clear about the catalog, I meant theoretically. I haven't seen one myself, but there could be some out there somewhere, maybe even an e-copy.

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