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    Posted 1 year ago

    krysciobrad
    (184 items)

    Found at a thrift store, a nice Famille Verte or Rose ginger jar with lid. Nice vivid pastel coloring and variation in the green and pink.

    It measures 9 1/2” tall

    There is a mark on the bottom but it seems to faded to read. It could be a number like “51” or I could be looking at it from the wrong angle. It’s not super old perhaps late 19th century to today, but porcelain isn’t were I shine in knowledge. Any other info on this item would be helpful!

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    1. apostata apostata, 1 year ago
      Meaning "the green family". Overglaze enamel decoration on export and Imperial porcelain. Developed during the Ming dynasty from multicolored decorations with tranclucent enamels, applied during secondary firing/s on glazed porcelin. By the end of the 16th century formalized into Wanli wucai - Wanli five color enamels - then further into Kangxi wucai and what now by mostly western scholars is recognized by its French name Famille Verte. The colors are usually red, green, yellow, blue and black. Which name that best describes a certain "five-color decoration" depends on the style of the decoration, where we by "Famille Verte" should assume a Kangxi style and period porcelain shapes and decoration.

      On earlier wares the blue is often under the glaze as it is not until later in the period that overglaze blue was successfully fired and the wucai was fully developed into the famille verte stage.

      The palette takes its name from the variety of clear greens which are characteristic of its style. The enamels are transparent and somewhat runny when fired. The exceptions are the over-glaze iron red enamel, the under-enamel black used for contours and the gold, often used to highlight the designs, all of which are opaque and does not run.

      A technical characteristic of genuine famille verte is the "halo effect" or the iridescence on top of the glaze surrounding the enamels which is particularly evident around the blue enamels. It is a "rainbow" covering the glaze connecting to the overglaze blue enamel. It is similar to oil on water and can be seen when the light falls on the glaze in a certain way.

      you got a 2 color dominance here , so technically it is not a famille green IMO, most of the ti and on me they are Kangxi related or Kangxi revival style ( 1890) related , and they probably need a darker green

      tried to compare the frotte ( the stroking) late REpublic period ( around 1950- to PROC period 1950 and on IMO this is 1950 and on (1970?)
    2. krysciobrad krysciobrad, 1 year ago
      @apostata , Thanks again for the analysis!

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