Posted 3 months ago
krysciobrad
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Another find from the estate. This is a large 10 1/2” diameter bowl with a 5” depth. decorated very finely with a pictorial scene of what looks like children watching a man paint scrolls. Foliage and a crane can be seen in the background. All very finely painted. It is marked with a Kutani marking inside a solid red circle. No chips or cracks. Porcelain has crackling throughout and minor paint wear. The outside is decorated with either phoenixes, peacocks, or roosters. Looks Meiji period. Definitely not Edo. Taisho wouldn’t surprise me either.
waki insert suibokuga ( delay)
2) Meiji period 1868 - 1912
It is may be more easy to understand the marking made during this period as many information are generally written on the pot. There is always at the minimum the Kutani mark - ??- . This mark is often combined with -??? - Dai Nippon (Great Japan) or with - ?? - Nihon (Japan).
The mark Kaga no Kuni - ??? - or Kaga Kutani - ??????- can be also found. In fact up to Meiji period Kutani ceramics were only known under the name of Kaga ceramics. Kaga being the old name of the Prefecture (Kaga Han North part of Ishikawa Prefecture today). The name Kutani became known outside the area only from middle or end of Meiji.
The name Kayo - ?? -?or Kashu - ?? - is also found sometimes and as the same meaning.
Regarding cities, we may find Kutani Kinjo - ???? - Kinjo being the old name of Kanazawa, or Yokohama - ?? for Kutani pieces decorated in Yokohama for export.
In addition we can also get either the name of the kiln or the name of the shop which has commercialized the production or in rather rare cases the name of the painter who did the actual work. There are exceptional cases where you get the name of the kiln and the name of the painter. On the other hand there has been so many kilns producing Kutani wares from that period that it is difficult to identify every kiln, shop or painter.
There are several terms used to identify the different manufacturing places - ? - Kama (kiln) , -??- Shoten (shop) or - ? - (Do) trading firm/Merchant and more scarcely - ? - Ken (Factory), - ? - Tei (house), -?- Sha (company), - ?- En (garden),
Then finally whether it is a potter name, a kiln or a shop name it is generally followed by the expression - ? - Sei or - ? - Zo (made by), sometimes both - ?? - Sei Zo,?and more scarcely by - ?- Ko (made), - ? - Ga (painted) - ? - Hitsu (drawn by), or - ?? - Tchakkuga (drawned by).
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? - oite - ?found at end of a marking after ? - Sei or - ? - Zo, meaning "made at" or "made in".
?? kore tsukuru - can also be found after the name of the painter, meaning " painter made this"
?? Kin Sei Respectfully made by...
?? Shin Ga Carrefully painted by....
There is a difference between "made" and "painted or drawn by", the former being understood that "made" includes the manufacturing of the pot itself when the later "painted by" means that the artist bought the pot from a nearby kiln which generally was doing only white pots and therefore did only the paint job.
Japanese kanji are written from left to right (European way) since Meiji period. They were written from right to left before. But there is no exact rules. In addition kanji can always be written from top to bottom. Horizontal and vertical writing can be used simultaneously.
3) Taisho period 1913 - 1926
Marking is getting more simple, However we almost always get also at the minimum the Kutani mark - ?? -. This mark is often combined with - ?? - Nihon (Japan).
4) Beginning of Showa up to W.W.II
Ceramics are also always identified with a Kutani mark - ?? - . The mark is also often combined with - ?? - Nihon (Japan).
IMO we can shut out EDO periode, we probably can by frequency ( fuku marking is dominant) and late is a sort of intermission period by means of turmoil, and probably bij stilising but i am not of that , the shoza stylising , and this aint it
Than i got a weird perception ( but i am a rooky) officialy this is GENERIC MARKING , so we could be odds down , because most generic are run of the mill, trow it out of the window quality, but i think it is SUPERB , butwho the f,,, am ik
well we got "covered "bij means of the AEKE ( orahge red and the KINRANDE) = gold aplication , and highly likely the flowers combination ( crysantimum)
the tonality of GENERIC is weird , probably he is a pragmatic dude , who use the same ground AKAE reverse and obverse
H?-? (Japanese: ? ?? ? ?? ), sometimes known in English as the hoho bird, is the Japanese pronunciation of the more common Chinese name, Fenghuang, a bird from East Asian mythology with similarities to the phoenix. This same creature also served as the inspiration for the phoenix-like Pokémon, Ho-Oh.
the quality is a matter of taste , i think it is excellent, it is really meticulous, and it is not the easy way out , look at the SHISHI, he used a front relief relief the proportion of the pack of feathers look well, the fingers looks OK , a bit oversizing
the shading of the hair is nice , a sort of splash and disperse technick , is not the easy way out , a tiny bit of the application ( boy one from the right ) ( temple lobe forhead ) is what the call against the grain )
the tonality of the fases is real good ( take the LAME comparison with the chinese late PROC period)
but i am biased because i buy or sell portraying when i can see the entropion of the eyes otherwise i dismisse it
well what are we in , probably an artist , i don,t know all the headgear of the social classes
IMO we are in the SUIBOKUGA, both pieces are black , the normal SUME-E technick
The other disaplay of the artfect is probably showing and DRYING, and i think there is a SUZURI = inkstone in the scene
well in case they faked it , they did a HELL OF A JOB , i think it is something like 1890, and as usual i don,t give a f,,, it,s all about the quality , and therea bonus because it seldom scene, what more do you need boring boulimia fed up birds scene,
congrats well done
he dude once in a while i have to sleep, please remember
i would buy it but still don,t trust it
Very informative read, my thanks again @Apostata!