Posted 13 years ago
vetraio50
(763 items)
The pattern is called Oud Rhodesia or is it Old Rhodesia?
It has a deco feel to it. I have had it now for thirty years. When I first found it at a market one Saturday I puzzled over the marks. At that time research on Gouda marks on the net was rather sketchy and not all of the year marks were known. The three lines with a cross-hatch was one of these unknowns. I only learnt about the date of 1954 about ten years ago. Up until then I thought it might have been from the thirties. I still do not know about the artists mark. I have seen the design on quite a few different shapes. This form I believe to be a gin bottle and it may well have had a round ceramic top with a cork as a stopper.
It retains the original green/silver label used from 1950 -1955.
A similar vase is thought to have been painted by Johannes Kersbergen.
http://www.goudadesign.co.uk/collectorsgallery16.html
But as the discussion below in 2025 shows Kersbergen is not the artist of this vase of mine.
Very handsome piece. Nice simple shape and a great flourish of decoration.
It does look like 'Old' before Rhodesia, but I have seen pieces of Dutch pottery marked 'OUD',..........so one of those must be correct!:),....( smart, Huh? )
One of these days I'll list an old liquer decanter that I have, also from Holland.
I think you'll appreciate it's painted design, bottle shape, and pottery crown stopper.
Anyways, Thanks for listing this beautiful piece,
Tony.
You have so many frangible art objects that I'd be a nervous wreck if I had to dust your place. miKKo
Beautiful frangible objects! miKKo
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Thanks for the thoughts too about the perils of collecting ceramics and glass, miKKo. There are no pets so any breakages are at a minimum.
What a lively and happy vase. It must cheer up a room with good vibes.
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VERY BEAUTIFUL :)
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Another great piece V!
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This is very beautiful!
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waki spotters alert , request to Friggo Visser Goederwagen Museum , signing inconsistent , but conclusion is right
Dag Waki
Uit je vraag begrijp ik dat jij aanwijzingen hebt, dat Jan Kersbergen bij de productie van dan wel de vormgeving van het model ofwel het decor Rhodesia betrokken was. Als samensteller van meerdere exposities over het Retro-aardewerk van PZH ben ik in de beschikbare bronnen nooit diens naam tegengekomen. Research onzerzijds leerde dat Jan Kersbergen glazuurtovenaar Herman Verlee assisteerde. Ron Tasman benoemt hem in het Gouda Pottery Book als 'decorator'. Of hij daadwerkelijk als schilder werkte, heb ik evenmin kunneen vaststellen. Maar ik sta open voor correcties.
Mhgr, Friggo
Adddum Friggo 1 houre later
Wij hebben voor de goede orde, Waki, een Rhodesia uit 1954 ook geëxposeerd en digitaal gecaatalogiseerd. Aardig om te weten is dat een decor als dit bij de eerste Jaarbeurspresentatie in de Goudsche Courant als een Picasso-decor betiteld werd.
Mhgr, Friggo
Your vase was decorated in 1954.
But you already know that. ;-)
Thanks so much for your assistance Apostata. I’m quite happy to delete the mention of Kerfsbergen if it troublesome. The link goes back now 13 years. I might have a good look …. and thanks too to Meneer Visser for the clarification.
That link is still active with the text : “ Picture 75 - Howard, from New Zealand, tells us about this delightful piece from PZH - "When my father died recently the vase was with his things. My wife recalled the vase in my parents new home in New Plymouth in 1955. A few days ago I was looking through some old photos, as I am writing a family history and sure enough, there was a photo showing the vase on a feature brick wall in the new house. I would think my parents purchased the vase near the end of 1955, specifically to suit the decor of their new home."
The photo show the base markings and the PZH silver and green sticker used on many items. Howard found the "certificate" inside the vase. In late 1930 the Dutch royal family honoured PZH by allowing them to use "By Royal Appointment". This is an amazing find as the certificates were often lost or simply thrown away. Very rare to see one. See here for more pictures related to the "Royal" connection.
Howard's parents must have really treasured this piece and I know Howard will keep it safe, as he tells us the certificate is back inside the vase.
Date will be from after WW2 to about 1952.
The vase, most likely for flowers or a flower bulb, measures 20.0cm high and was probably painted by Johan van Kersbergen.”
The internet pages below state that Johannes Kersbergen (same as Johan van Kersbergen?) worked for PZH between 1921 and 1953. You can also see how he signed.
https://ridgetopcollection.com/artists-by-monogram/?wpv_view_count=259669&wpv-wpcf-artist-last-initial=k
https://ridgetopcollection.com/artist-and-objects/?wpv_view_count=162214&wpv-wpcf-artist-code=KBJ&wpv_view_count=162165&wpv-wpcf-object-artist-code=KBJ&wpv_paged=1
I also found an article confirming Friggo Visser's remark.
In the last years of the war, Herman Verlee, the glaze virtuoso of the PZH, began experiments with precious metal lusters that were unique to the Netherlands. In doing so, a beautiful metallic sheen was achieved on pre-painted and fired pottery in a special afterfire at 800 degrees Celsius, according to a recipe that he also intended as a secret. Malaga from the end of the 15th century. Verlee's assistant Jan van Kersbergen made notes in notebooks about his glaze research.
De keramiekfabriek PZH wilde totale geheimhouding van deze glazuren techniek en wat van Kersbergen dus (gelukkig) met zijn schriftjes overtrad
https://www.veenkoloniaalmuseum.nl/nl/in-het-museum/activiteiten/eedelmetaal-lusters-een-lezing-door-bert-jan-baas
To illustrate that Van Kersbergen did indeed work for PHZ for so long, I also include a link to a lamp base from the 1950s that was signed by him.
https://www.galeriegiesbers.nl/zuid-holland-goudlampvoet-coronia/
Many thanks MPKUNST. It’s obvious now to me that that it not the signature of Johannes Kersbergen. The identity of the artist still eludes me.
did, not knew this about the lamp , the rest is known,ty for the information, it is all a matter of taste , but tecnically we are in the decline period
Not that it will help you much, but I think this dish was painted by the same painter as your vase
https://www.ebay.nl/itm/265269032151?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=1346-175129-2357-0&ssspo=BppBXuwHT_6&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=yJCQJwh_Qe-&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Many thanks MPKUNST you are right !!!!