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    Posted 4 years ago

    cwjbl
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    Here's a picture of my great great uncle Sandor and his brothers from 1880 in Budapest. He owned the military hat pictured, but I don't know its origin. Can anyone help?

    John
    jbl14111@gmail.com

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    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Was you ancestor a diplomat ???
    2. keramikos, 4 years ago
      Hi, cwjbl. :-)

      Beautiful. Look at that workmanship.

      The information inside the hat looks to me like it spells this:

      Josef Fuxa & Sohn
      UNIFORMARUNGS-ANSTALT
      IX. Universitätstr. 2

      A search for that uniform business entity produced nothing, but Fuxa looks like it could be a Czech name.

      The word "Anstalt" has a pretty specific meaning, and it kind of makes my head hurt to try to understand it:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anstalt

      That address is interesting, because the spelling "Universitätstr." would be an abbreviation for Universitätstrasse, which in most German-speaking regions would more usually be rendered as Universitätsstrasse.

      There is one place, however, where it's spelled Universitätstrasse (Zurich, Switzerland):

      *snip*

      Universitätstrasse 2
      8006 Zürich
      Switzerland

      *snip*

      https://goo.gl/maps/XtHeAtDrx7hTijxq9

      You'll notice that the graphical information on the map shows a street named "Rämistrasse," so I don't know how accurate the results from Google Maps are. Roads frequently have more than one name, even in the USA.

      Here's a Swiss map that renders it as Universitätstrasse:

      https://map.search.ch/Z%C3%BCrich,Universit%C3%A4tstr.2?zoom=17
    3. cwjbl, 4 years ago
      In reply to Vitraio50: No, I don't think he was.
      In reply to Kiramikos: Interest information. That's my reading also of the inside of the hat. The hat looks similar to French military hats to me, but my uncle may have been a collector, and the hat may have no relationship to his own military service in Hungary.
    4. dav2no1 dav2no1, 4 years ago
      hats for an Austro-Hungarian official?

      http://www.mlorenz.at/Bewaffnete_Macht/08_Generalitaet/08_Generalitaet.htm

      https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/hermann-historica-ohg/catalogue-id-srher10019/lot-ebffe58b-15ae-4e9a-adcd-a5df01442bd1
    5. keramikos, 4 years ago
      dav2no1, by gum, there it is:

      http://www.mlorenz.at/Sammlung/Generalitaet_stulphut_%2002.jpg

      (Translated snippet)

      *snip*

      The kuk generals were the group of the highest ranking officers of the land forces of Austria-Hungary 1867-1914 . They led larger troop formations and held leading positions in the central authorities.

      *snip*

      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K.u.k._Generalit%C3%A4t
    6. Radegunder Radegunder, 4 years ago
      Josef Fuxa was a k.u.k. Hoflieferant in Vienna in 1910
    7. cwjbl, 4 years ago
      TO davenoi and keramikos
      THAT'S IT. THANKS FOR SOLVING A FAMILY MYSTERY.
    8. keramikos, 4 years ago
      cwjbl, Teamwork. :-)

      Thanks to Radegunder for the information about Josef Fuxa. :-)

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