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collectorp…
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Anyone recognize this mark? I have 2 plates/chargers both with the same mark on the back and Im having trouble with identification.
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Posted 2 years ago
collectorp…
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Anyone recognize this mark? I have 2 plates/chargers both with the same mark on the back and Im having trouble with identification.
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Chargers are made by Boch Belgium. The style is Delfts.
Thanks for the info
Just augmenting a bit what mp.kunst gave you. :-)
I didn't see that exact backstamp at theoldstuff dot com, although I did see one very similar in English:
https://www.theoldstuff.com/en/porcelain-marks/category/249-boch-freres-keramis-royal-boch-marks
Here's a similar plate:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1021988017/antique-delft-blue-plate-o-39-cm-1535
What I at first found interesting, and later maddening: many websites exhibiting china pieces with this image cite painter Otto Eerelman over and over, but I haven't been able to find the specific Eerelman painting that inspired it, e.g.:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/229971487/rare-delft-chargers-two-delfts-blauw
About Eerelman:
https://www.invaluable.com/artist/eerelman-otto-0nk1iqxbe0/
Pictures of Eerelman and his wife:
https://www.greetsgenealogie.nl/gezinskaart-van-otto-eerelman-1839-1926/
Some of his works:
https://www.simonis-buunk.com/artist/otto-eerelman/artworks-for-sale/1420/
Here is a popular Eerelman painting titled "Mrs. Carré on horseback":
https://www.museum.nl/nl/stedelijk-museum-vianen/pronkstuk/mevrouw-carre-te-paard
It's unclear to me whether the main human subject in the painting is an actual circus performer, or some society matron posing as such.
I suspect the latter, because here is another Eerelman painting of Madame Carre and a horse:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/522487994271915341/
Thanks for all the info. I will check it out
Keramikos very interesting your findings
kiramikos is real skilled , this is hard to break, Walcheren or the Veluwe , probably a shut out of Walcheren because , is it an Sunday outing, probably not , different mounting, highbrow versus low brow , highbrow probably, see the hat, and the narrativw painter is a protege of Queen Wilhelmina, although there are low brow scenes
This is a quite famous Dutch painter comtempory of Mezdag i believe
Simonis and Buunk sells the type of ware ( oilpaintings)who are major players
Both chargers (better known as wedding plate or bride and groom in summer with carriage) are made in the second half of the 20th century by Royal Boch (Boch Frères Keramis) in La Louviere, Belgium for Royal Sphinx (formerly Petrus Regout) in Maastricht, the Netherlands.
Nowhere I found on the internet (official sites) that the design of these chargers is said to be by Otto Eerelman, which does not rule out that it is his design, but until that is proven I would say that this is a tribute.
mp.kunst, Thank you, that makes sense. :-)