Posted 2 months ago
AnneExplorer
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My granddaughter and her friend found this "coin " in my backyard yesterday. I cleaned it up the best I could. Any ideas on what this is? It does feel like it's made from metal. I live in IL, USA in a small village north of Alton near train tracks. Village records indicate that my now subdivision was used by Native Americans and there was once a "hotel" near the entrance of my subdivision. Fur traders were also said to come to to the hotel. Also, the former owners of my house were from Czechoslovakia.
Interesting you are allowed four pictures
Maybe you could take two pictures of the other side and
another of the front
Yes, more images, please!
AnneExplorer, Yes indeed, more pictures, please. :-)
At a glance, it looks like what's called a cob coin (scroll down):
https://www.lostgalleon.com/history.php
If you rotate the single image posted here, you get a better sense of the imagery, which looks like a heraldic shield in the center, a common theme on cob coins.
However, there are a lot of reproductions, and outright fakes out there, so more research is needed.
More pictures and less blurry would help
AnneExplorer,
Just adding a bit more information about shield cob coins:
https://www.atochatreasurecoins.com/atochacoindesign.htm
https://coins.www.collectors-society.com/wcm/coinview.aspx?sc=99129
Is your metal round an authentic cob coin? I don't know. Aside from the fact that I'm not an expert, dav2no1's point about more and less blurry pictures is well-made. Not to mention that adding size and weight information wouldn't go amiss.
Your local area doesn't strike me as a normal one for finding cob coins, but then as you've already pointed out, it's near train tracks. Also, it's near the confluence of the Mississippi, Missouri, and Illinois rivers, so all kinds of things could have ended up there.
You mentioned that the former owners of your house were of Czech origin. A related historical tidbit is that the very word for the U.S. unit of currency, the dollar, is of German/Czech origin:
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200107-welcome-to-jchymov-the-czech-town-that-invented-the-dollar
Ultimately, nothing is quite as good as examining an item in person, and you should probably take this item to a reputable, local coin dealer for assessment.
more pictures, it is upside down in the photo you showed making the search harder ...And don't clean it for heaven's sake
Malatero2:
"more pictures, it is upside down in the photo you showed making the search harder"
I don't know whether the picture of the metal round being upside down was due to a deliberate choice made by the photographer, or if it was due to the known problem (well, known to long-time regulars, that is) of CW S&T software not always playing nicely with all photo sources.
You can download and rotate a copy of the photo yourself, and then the resemblance to a shield cob coin become apparent, but not everybody wants to make the effort.
"And don't clean it for heaven's sake"
I'm afraid that ship has sailed.
Looks interesting. I'd like to see the other side. I wonder if it is a token for something, rather than a coin.
elanski:
"Looks interesting. I'd like to see the other side."
Yup. };-)
"I wonder if it is a token for something, rather than a coin."
Could well be.
What is this haven,t looked for it , because it is out of proportion , and we miss the flip site some sort of Seville minting , does,not seem Valladolid, something like Charles the second maybe1689-1690, IMO bogus
all the realis are bogus
apostata:
"What is this haven,t looked for it , because it is out of proportion , and we miss the flip site some sort of Seville minting , does,not seem Valladolid, something like Charles the second maybe1689-1690, IMO bogus"
apostata:
"all the realis are bogus"
Thus spake apostata. (Just kidding. };-) )
Yeah, there's a lot of missing information, and I don't know whether the OP will ever come back to clarify or expand.
For instance, did the granddaughter and her friend dig this metal round out of the earth in the backyard, or was it laying on the surface?
More information on cob coins (not for you apostata, because I know you don't need it):
https://coins.nd.edu/colcoin/colcoinintros/sp-cobs.intro.html
https://commodorecoins.com/treasure-blog/real-or-fake-how-to-spot-counterfeit-spanish-cob-coins/
https://fascinatingspain.com/spanish-culture-fascinating/spanish-culture-in-madrid/history-of-the-coat-of-arms-of-spain/
you can sample numista or Spice Island shipwreck , you have to rotate the cob coin in your mind there is never rectangular within a rectangular , and the relief even when it is worn out, that will do it , even if i did,not looked for it
greetings
relief does,not make sense proportion does,not make ,
apostata, I'm not sure that I understand all of your reasoning on this, but I trust your judgment. :-)
Looks like a modern tourist reproduction, silver doesn't tarnish or corrode in that white powdery way but zinc does and its commonly used to make these.
Kjhoran, Thanks for weighing in on this. :-)
I suspected it was a modern tourist reproduction, but was hoping the OP would come back with more details, e.g., whether the coin found on the surface of the ground, or below.
That could be a tell as to how long the metal round had been there.